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כתבה מוחמד חאן:מוסלמים אינם חלק מהמיינסטרים בבריטניה והם מונים כ 1.8 מיליון ב UK ו 15 ב EU

למוסלמים יש עוד דרך ארוכה עד המיינסטרים בבריטניה, כך הזהיר ראש עיריית מנצ'סטר בביקורו בירושלים ביום ראשון

זאת למרות שמוסלמים מ 47 מדינות התיישבו בבריטניה, כך אמר מוחמד אפזאן חאן.

למוסלמים יש זכויות אזרח מלאות וחצי מהם נולדו באנגליה - אבל אז היו רק חצי תריסר חברי מועצה מוסלמים, ארבעה חברי פרלמנט וחצי תריסר מוסלמים בבית הלורדים, הוא ציין.

חבר המועצה חאן, המנהיג האזרחי המוסלמי ממוצא אסיאתי הראשון בעיר, דיבר בפני המועצה הישראלית לענייני חוץ.

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ISRAEL VISIT: Lord Mayor of Manchester Cllr Mohammed Afzal Khan is seen with Manchester-born former Israeli ambassador Yehuda Avner (second left), UJIA regional director Natie Sheval and Mayor of Merom HaGalil Shlomo Levy visiting Manchester UJIA projects in the area



MUSLIMS still had a long way to go to be part of the British mainstream, Manchester's Lord Mayor warned in Jerusalem on Sunday.



This was despite the fact that Muslims from 47 nationalities had settled in Britain, said Mohammed Afzal Khan

Muslims had full citizenship rights and half of them were born in England - but there there were only two dozen Muslim city councillors, four MPs and a half dozen Muslims in the House of Lords, he pointed out.

Cllr Khan, the city's first Asian-born Muslim civic leader, was addressing the Israel Council on Foreign Relations.

He estimated that there were 15 million Muslims in Europe. There were 1.8 million Muslims in Britain from many ethnic origins, with 77 per cent from Pakistan, India and Bangladesh.

Pakistan-born Cllr Khan, a founding member in 2004 of Manchester's Muslim-Jewish Forum, has spent much of his political career putting out fires on racial issues and encouraging inter-communal understanding and respect.

Although there are only half-a-million people in Manchester, and two million people in Greater Manchester, they speak 152 languages, he said.

"There is a real need for integration among communities who can be true to their own values and work together," the Lord Mayor added.

He said that his personal desire was to support social inclusion and development by recognising and giving equal worth to the many religious faiths and diversity within the city.

"I'm not interested in assimilation," Mr Khan added. "Why should I let go of something I have?

"As a Muslim living in Britain, I have the luxury of being able to pick and choose. Assimilation is a one-way street. I'm interested in a two-way street.

"Integration allows for everyone to become enriched through picking and choosing."

He also felt that Muslim extremists were losing their balance.

"The teaching of Islam is about moderation - the middle road," Mr Khan warned.

And emphasising the point, he quoted from an Islamic philosopher, who wrote: "The zealots will enter hell."

"The Islamic contribution to Western intellectual tradition has been conveniently forgotten," he said.

Cllr Khan, 46, barely mentioned the tensions between Muslims and Jews, and then only in response to a question from the floor. The issue between Asians and Jews is Palestine, he said.

"They feel that Palestine is not getting its just due," he argued.

"But they understand that the Jewish people are the People of the Book, and perhaps closer to us than anyone else.

"That's why we have the Muslim-Jewish Forum, to see how close we are, and how much we could strengthen one another by having a better relationship."

During his Israel visit, Cllr Khan also went to the Galil where he was shown a number of UJIA projects.

Meanwhile, the next meeting of the Muslim Jewish Forum will take place at Manchester Town Hall, in committee room one, on Thursday, January 26 (7pm).


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כתבה Do Not Blame the British Muslims for Terrorism
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Do Not Blame the British Muslims for Terrorism

Shahid Qureshi, Arab News

Approximately 1.8 million law-abiding British Muslims are playing their role in the development of the UK economy. Thousands of British citizens are working in Muslim countries and bringing foreign exchange to the country. Their contribution cannot be overlooked and they should not be blamed for crimes they did not commit.

At a dinner hosted by Pakistan’s Foreign Minister Khurshid Mahmud Kasuri for journalists, politicians and businessmen in London a few weeks ago, a British MP of Pakistani origin said something like British Muslims, “should condemn terrorism, take responsibility for their actions and come out with denial.” I totally agree with the MP from Glasgow, but as far as July 7 London bombings are concerned, it’s a criminal act and should be treated accordingly. British Muslims condemn terrorism whether carried out by individuals or states.

Although we still don’t know who were the perpetrators of the July 7 bombings, British people would like to know who ordered the crisis management exercises at the places where bombings took place right when the exercises were in progress; and that’s not a conspiracy theory. British security forces performed extremely well in carrying out the investigation; the accidental killing of a Brazilian was, of course, a faux pas. They proved better investigators than the US security forces who questioned a large number of people after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

British Muslims and specially Pakistanis living in the UK were under intense pressure in the wake of the July 7 bombing probe.

Michael Howard, the leader of the opposition in British Parliament, told BBC News 24: “It is sensible to have an inquiry with the benefit of hindsight into what was done and what wasn’t done to see if there are lessons which can be learned. Perhaps there are perhaps there aren’t.”

Chillingly coincidental, “war games” conducted during the actual tragedy on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, echo London underground “bombing exercises” which took place at the same time as the real attack, according to Alex Jones’ Prison Planet.com.

“It is clear that at least five if not six training exercises were in progress in the days leading up to and on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001,” Paul Joseph Watson and Alex Jones wrote for Prison Planet.com.

Basing their information on a BBC Radio 5 interview, Watson and Jones say a consulting agency with government and police connections was running an exercise for an unnamed company that revolved around the London Underground being bombed at the exact times and locations as happened in real life on the morning of July 7, 2005.

“The host interviewed Peter Power, managing director of Visor Consultants, which bills itself as a ‘crisis management advice company’, better known as a PR firm.

“Power told the host that exactly at the same time that the London bombings were taking place; his company was running a 1,000-person strong exercise which drilled the London Underground being bombed at the exact same locations, at the exact same times, as happened in real life. Peter Power was a former Scotland Yard official, working at one time with the Anti-Terrorist Branch.”

Peter Power told BBC that the drill focused around “simultaneous bombings”. Originally the London bombings were thought to have been spread over an hour, but BBC report says that the bombings were in fact simultaneous.

Watson and Jones say, “The fact that the exercise mirrored the exact locations and times of the bombings is light years ahead beyond a coincidence”. The bombs used in July 7 terrorist attacks were of “military origin”, according to a senior French policeman sent to London to help in what has become the biggest criminal investigation in British history reported London daily, Independent on July 12, 2005.

Christophe Chaboud, head of the French Anti-Terrorism Coordination Unit, told Le Monde newspaper that the explosives used in the bombings were of “military origin”, which he described as “very worrying”.

“We’re more used to cells making home-made explosives with chemicals,” he said. “How did they get them? Either by trafficking, for example, in the Balkans, or they had someone on the inside who enabled them to get out of the military establishment.”

He added that the victims’ wounds suggested that the explosives, which were “not heavy but powerful”, had been placed on the ground, perhaps underneath seats.

Many British newspapers reported on drills weeks and months before the bombings, but none of them picked up on the biggest story of them all, a drill on the day of the attack. Why?

If one analyzes the terrorist attacks in London it becomes clear that some vested interests want Muslims and Christians to fight each other. Forces that describe Muslims as terrorists and perpetrate atrocities in the name of countering terrorism are themselves sponsors of terrorism.

The Madrid train bombers were found to be police informers with close links to the Spanish security services. They had access to the most secure areas of the Madrid train system. The London Underground exercises were used as a cover to carry out the attack. This is the biggest smoking gun yet pointing directly to the most secretive levels of the British government. British double-agent was in Real IRA’s Omagh bomb team, reported Neil Mackay of Sunday Herald, Aug. 19, 2001.

British security forces didn’t intercept the Real IRA’s Omagh bombing team because one of the terrorists was a British double-agent whose cover would have been blown as an informer if the operation was uncovered. The security forces were forced to hope that their agent would provide them with intelligence to ensure that the bomb would go off without casualties. In the event, due to blundered telephone warnings, 29 people died on Aug. 15 1998. We have to look at the beneficiaries of the terrorist incidents as well as the criminals, irrespective of their religion and nationality who are working for the evil forces. The evil forces that are desperately trying to pit Muslims against Christians are not completely unsuccessful.

— Shahid Qureshi is the director of Journalist Rights International.





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