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  #7  
ישן 08-11-2005, 13:45
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בתגובה להודעה מספר 5 שנכתבה על ידי ישראל היפה שמתחילה ב "אם אתה רוצה התייחסות העבר אלי שאלה ולא כתובת אתר-אינני פותח אתרים בלתי מזוהיים"

אני מצטט כאן את המאמר שהתפרסם באתר שהביא אלכסנדר כדי "לסתום לך את הפה" מהשמעת טענות "לא קראתי, לא ידעתי".
November 04, 2005

Taheri: French rioters calling for reorganization of France into separate religious enclaves

A two-state solution for France? "Why Paris Is Burning" by Amir Taheri, from the New York Post, with thanks to Scissor:
Some are even calling for the areas where Muslims form a majority of the population to be reorganized on the basis of the "millet" system of the Ottoman Empire: Each religious community (millet) would enjoy the right to organize its social, cultural and educational life in accordance with its religious beliefs. In parts of France, a de facto millet system is already in place. In these areas, all women are obliged to wear the standardized Islamist "hijab" while most men grow their beards to the length prescribed by the sheiks.

The radicals have managed to chase away French shopkeepers selling alcohol and pork products, forced "places of sin," such as dancing halls, cinemas and theaters, to close down, and seized control of much of the local administration.

A reporter who spent last weekend in Clichy and its neighboring towns of Bondy, Aulnay-sous-Bois and Bobigny heard a single overarching message: The French authorities should keep out.

"All we demand is to be left alone," said Mouloud Dahmani, one of the local "emirs" engaged in negotiations to persuade the French to withdraw the police and allow a committee of sheiks, mostly from the Muslim Brotherhood, to negotiate an end to the hostilities.

President Jacques Chirac and Premier de Villepin are especially sore because they had believed that their opposition to the toppling of Saddam Hussein in 2003 would give France a heroic image in the Muslim community.

Hmmm. You mean playing the dhimmi didn't score them points? What a shock.
That illusion has now been shattered — and the Chirac administration, already passing through a deepening political crisis, appears to be clueless about how to cope with what the Parisian daily France Soir has called a "ticking time bomb." It is now clear that a good portion of France's Muslims not only refuse to assimilate into "the superior French culture," but firmly believe that Islam offers the highest forms of life to which all mankind should aspire.

So what is the solution? One solution, offered by Gilles Kepel, an adviser to Chirac on Islamic affairs, is the creation of "a new Andalusia" in which Christians and Muslims would live side by side and cooperate to create a new cultural synthesis.

The problem with Kepel's vision, however, is that it does not address the important issue of political power. Who will rule this new Andalusia: Muslims or the largely secularist Frenchmen?

A "new Andalusia," eh? This shows what fictionalizing history can do to present-day policy. Andalusia was no proto-multiculturalist paradise. It was an Islamic state in which Jews and Christians lived with second-class status as dhimmis -- and the Muslim populace rioted when some non-Muslims were given positions of influence. The supremacist character of the jihad ideology would make a "new Andalusia" inevitably into something very like the old one: not the paradise of tolerance Kepel imagines, but a nightmare of oppression for non-Muslims. Frenchmen! Welcome to the future!
Posted by Robert at November 4, 2005 06:40 PM
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ישן 08-11-2005, 17:42
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בתגובה להודעה מספר 15 שנכתבה על ידי AlexKarpman שמתחילה ב "בטח מה שאמרת היה מחמאות בישראלית :)"



Foetus -- Baby

The right to die -- The right of someone else to kill you

A woman's right to choose -- blah blah blah I'm not listening anymore

This shouldn't be an election issue -- This might lose us votes

Investment -- Spending

Society -- The state

The community -- The state

Our "so-called" democracy -- Democracy

You can't impose democracy -- We wish you wouldn't remove dictators by force

International law -- Whatever's fine by Russia, China and France

Secular -- Atheist

Multifaith -- Everything/nothing is true

Rational -- The stuff we believe.

Reducing poverty -- Increasing dependency

Welfare to work -- Workers on welfare

The Pope was a great man, but… -- He didn’t agree with us on everything

The next Pope must modernise the Church -- The next Pope must agree with us on everything

The Church has held back the fight against AIDS -- People who ignore Catholic teaching on sex outside marriage really care what the Pope says about condoms

equality -- racism against white people

racism -- equality

this is a sensitive issue -- I will be hounded out of office, possibily shot and killed if i happen to wander from the politically correct line

to be fair -- to be unfair to the rich

justice -- when we are deemed correct

A belief in God -- [offensive] A belief in God

wealth distibution -- take money from the (often deservingly) rich to give to the (often deservingly)poor

fascist -- to be right of center

To play on peoples fears -- To address peoples concerns and attempt to offer solutions

Populist politics/playing for votes -- To talk about things average people care about

War for Oil! -- We haven't seen the news for 2 years and have formulated no new arguments

You are ignorant -- You do not think like we do

You are a Bigot -- You do not think like we do AND i have no counter to what you think

You are a C*nt etc -- You do not think like we do AND i have no counter to what you think AND even i realise that i have lost the argument
Just world -- a politically left-leaning world

In the modern world.../This is the 21st century! -- We will justify our argument for ignoring and disrespecting the moral rules on which society is based by making the highly intellectual assersion that time has passed

increase oppotunity -- the chance to achieve more without doing as much

be compassionate! -- pay more in taxes

do the responsible thing! -- pay more in taxes

of course we support your business, BUT... -- while we look on your efforts to provide for your family yourself without help with mild bemusement; we do feel, on balance, that you should pay more in taxes

we must make the most of our country's wealth... -- we must invest in our public services, and as people are more well off, they should pay more in taxes to pay for it


Spending on school dinners will go up to fifty pence per meal! -- Would you like ketchup with your Turkey Twizzlers?

Because of the unique way the BBC is funded… -- Because of the BBC’s unique lack of accountability…

X is a senior Conservative… -- Never heard of the guy until he made that gaffe / took that money / lost his trousers

X was a senior and respected Conservative… -- Never heard of the guy until he defected to us.

Tory cuts -- A marginally slower rate of growth in government expenditure


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